Mumbai: Karan Johar, Ranveer Singh, Kangana Ranaut and now Pallavi Joshi catches up with Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev in an explosive interview.
“If you have handed over the nation to scoundrels and call them scoundrels, then we are the scoundrels”- Sadhguru.
“A Hindu does not have a philosophy, nobody gave us commandments”- Sadhguru
“The word politics has become a dirty word”- Sadhguru
22nd October, Mumbai:- Sadhguru keeps his date with Bollywood and this time it is the effervescent Pallavi Joshi who brings the modern-day mystic to face some hard questions on camera. The fifty-minute long conversation at Sadhguru’s home turf, Isha Yoga in Coimbatore features a very graceful Pallavi Joshi questioning the modern-day mystic on everything worldly and the harsh realities of life.
Pallavi Joshi opened the conversation asking Sadhguru a fundamental question “India is one of the oldest civilizations, while great ancient nations like Greece and Egypt perished how did we survive?”
Sadhguru beautifully summarized, “Other than India’s geographical location with the great Himalayas and the Indian Ocean that helped us evade invasion for a few millennia, it’s our belief in ourselves that kept us going. Your life is your Karma- it is your own making. It is about human responsibility to craft your own life. It is that fundamental believe which it made us the civilization that we have been and that has allowed us to survive beyond all reasonable limits of time. More than 12- 15 thousand years cause here people say that our lives have to be crafted within us. From religion to responsibility- this is what Adi Yogi stands for. People have to move from looking up (what we call religion) to looking in. It is this one quality that made us survive”.
The conversation gradually meandered into nation-building, India’s future and a roadmap to greatness. Joshi got the modern-day mystic to get into uncomfortable territories like politics & religion, prosperity & corruption, nepotism and the future of children. Sadhguru in his signature style tongue in cheek humour came up with fitting rebuttals and insightful responses.
Speaking about her experience talking with Sadhguru, actor Pallavi Joshi stated, “It is a memorable encounter. I felt like an ocean of composure after the interview. He gave absolutely precise answers from a spiritual dimension in such a simplified manner that long debates and data would fail to explain. In one word, I would say it was fulfilling. If you watch the interview you will know what I mean”.
He spoke very passionately about education, condemning the compulsory education system which emulates industrialisation where human beings are put into assembly lines to come out as a certain kind of product. Another topic that Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev deliberated on is Water Crisis other than the overarching moot point of Hindu religion and spirituality.
By the close of the interview, the mystic cited a three-pronged approach for India to emerge as an unbreakable nation and continue firmly. By focussing on the nation’s Sovereignty, Soil and evolved Education System where other skills are allowed to blossom.
Wisecracks from Sadhguru during his conversation with Pallavi Joshi.
“India has a higher level of intellect”.
“We have to move this nation from Dogmatic a religious process which has come to us from outside”.
“Our life is our responsibility and we have to move this nation from religion to responsibility as it was in the past”.
“A Hindu does not have philosophy nobody gave us commandments. We have learnt to ask questions. We are a land of seekers and not believers. Our goal is not up there or heaven- ours is Mukti/ moksha/ freedom and liberation”.
“Even Chanakya was hated by many people”.
“We liked the variety when new people came for outside we thought they are interesting and we welcomed them. They thought it is our weakness and took advantage of us”.
“Nation is not a piece of land it is built in the hearts and minds of people”.
“If we remain corrupt we will not become prosperous- for this generation, we have a powerful tool to fix corruption, which is technology”.
“If the pain of ignorance bothers you, then you have become spiritual”.
“Children are going to factories from the age of 4 or 5. I call these factories which most people call schools”.
“If you are not interested in really getting involved in the growth of the child then its best not to have a child because Human species is not endangered after all”.
“Education will have to shift from survival to blossoming of an individual”.
“In our education system, people are mistaking memory & information for intelligence”.
“Pay attention, make your children experience things more”.
“Those who are very interested in leaving a footprint on the planet will never fly”.
“Corruption is not a crime it has become a culture. If you jail people engaged in corruption by giving or taking bribe then 90 % will be behind bars”.
“60 % of our people know how to make mud into food- that is not a small thing”.
“The amount of per capita water we had in 1947, we have only 21 % of that now and by 2030 it is expected to drop down to 15 %. Now you have water from a bottle, wait till you shower from.
The Interview is available on I am Buddha’s Youtube channel:-